Talk:Experience by area (DXHR)

a few words
Hi, I'm the creator of this page and I'm trying very hard to find and list all XP opportunities in the game. I'm writing this list as I'm going for a max-XP playthrough, so sections will be added one after another as I progress through the game, which can take a while. Feel free to add things I overlooked or even whole sections. Just when you do so, please try and follow these guidelines: Thanks, Santaranger 22:48, September 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * Do not list anything that is not related to XP or Praxis.
 * Stick to the short listing style. Put explanations at the beginning of a section/part, if necessary.
 * Avoid giving gameplay hints, like how to reach a specific location. I found it's the most fun thing to come here, find an XP bonus listed that I didn't know of, and try to get it myself. Also, since this game is so emersive, your hint might not be the preferred way for others, anyway.

Length
This is going to be a long page, so maybe we should already now look into ways of minimizing it. Maybe there is a way to "fold" sections (the main locations) into 1 line, like TOC.

Lenght is fine for me now, and even in the future. I prefer a single, long page. As for folding, well, the TOC suffices, IMHO.

As earlier noted, equipement should NOT be listed here. Jeahra 20:11, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah this page is gonna be a monstrosity in size... the information is already pretty condensed, my only thought is to break the sections up into their own pages, and use this page to link those pages. Considering that there could be videos and pictures for so many of these entries, that might actually be better anyway, I'm thinking of doing the same for the Augmentations (DX3) article, it's suffering from basically the same issue at the moment. But any other suggestions would be great. Also, the use of tables for some of the info could help, I dunno. Philanthr0py 18:49, September 30, 2011 (UTC)


 * I'm not quite sure, but I think it might be possible to add new wiki compoments, such as folding sections, which are used in some wikis for spoilers, by the wiki admins. Otherwise I can't see how the page could be made smaller. I'd rather not split it up into several pages.


 * Regarding videos/pictures: I updated my topmost posting on gameplay hints. The videos I made are already against my own guidelines, but I decided to include them because people can easily ignore them entirely. This would not really be possbile for pictures next to the listings so they're out of question from my point of view.


 * I don't see how tables could help structuring the information, either. Feel free to experiment with them and show us your results. Any other layout improvements are welcome, especially for those hard to structure phases like northern detroit/derelict row Santaranger 10:22, October 1, 2011 (UTC)

Regarding double-takedowns
There will be a slight variation in earned xp, depending on the number of double take-downs performed. My personal opinion is that I won't go out of my way to perform double-takedowns in order to absolutely maximize xp gain. While I haven't tried it yet, i'm pretty sure one can double-takedown any two enemies with a clear path between them. You can just distract them, shooting where you want them to go with a silent gun, step by step.

I took MAN(50) as a good measure for xp efficient enemy neutralization that can be performed at all times, and try to include double-takedowns as much as possible, if they aren't too terrible.

Concerning double-takedowns in the first mission: it IS possible to buy the reflex booster aug before confronting Zeke. However, taking the reflex booster with your first two points pretty much screws your hacking capabilities for the near future, so you would have to do some serious backtracking.

Please do not modify listed XP values by refering to out of the way double-takedowns. Instead, leave a note at the top of the corresponding section. Santaranger 02:02, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

Videos
several of the sections have walkthrough videos, but use external links to do so; it would probably be better wiki format to put those videos in a gallery, and swap the ext links with inbound links to the #gallery section on the page; opinions? Philanthr0py 22:17, September 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * Video links updated. Thanks for the hint. Santaranger 19:58, September 28, 2011 (UTC)

Jensen's Computer
The guide mentions very explicitly 'Do not hack your own computer yet.' even after Jensen has Capture 3 when he comes back from the Factory. Why is this? The computer becomes hackable again on the second visit to Detroit, after Hengsha and Montreal, so unless the minigame has an extra datastore after getting back from highland park that wasn't there before there doesn't seem to be any reason not to hack it.Tetracycloide 15:57, October 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * This is because hacking it automatically reads the 1st email, which triggers a side quest and unlocks thorpe's apartment, which eliminates 2 extra hacking bonuses (see 'the alley')