Talk:Biomods

"biomods" vs "augmentations"
The augmentations in Deus Ex: Invisible War are actually called "biomods" in that game. However, for simplicity's sake, they may be called "augmentations" in this Wiki page. Just to clear confusion. Eddo36 10:52, September 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * Makes no sense. Changing the terminology used to make it wrong isn't going to clear up confusion; the page needs to call them what they're actually called in the game. Otherwise it's like chaging the pagename for GEP gun to "rocket launcher" even though it's never called that by the game. 2.24.36.214 11:43, September 1, 2011 (UTC)

It's different, here we will need to keep a standard format with other games, which would be rather strange and could be misinterpreted to have three pages with two different names for the same thing. "Biomods" and "Biomod" already redirect to "Augmentations (DX2)" so people are not mistaken.

In addition, biomods was a mistake made by the devs, this term is too vague (biomodification is the process of modifying a biological organism using either genetic or mechanical means, so mechanical augmentation or physiopharmaceutical augmentation are also biomodification), and they are called nano-augmentations in the description of bioelectric cells. Itachou [~talk~] 11:53, September 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes, but someone coming here looking for information on DX2 is going to find that the Biomods are referred to by an incorrect name (ie, one which is not used in the game). It doesn't matter if it's a "mistake made by the devs," it's what the game calls them. If we're going town that route, you could just as well argue that Jensen's whole-limb replacements should be called "bionics" rather than "augmentations," since you can't really augment a limb that is totally missing to start with.


 * Keeping a standard format is well and good but the games do not follow such a format and it's dishonest to claim otherwise. Sure, they should be linked to from pages on augs as normal, but it should always be emphasised that in IW augs are called Biomods, not lied about for the sake of false uniformity. 2.24.36.214 12:01, September 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yeah I do agree with 2.24.36.214, though it's not my call. Eddo36 12:07, September 1, 2011 (UTC)

The Deus Ex Wiki is also here to consolidate the mistakes made by the developers, conscitence with the universe and keeping a standard format with other games is really important. Their in-game name is already mentioned in the intro of the page, and also like I said the Biomods and Biomod page already redirect here (just write them in the search bar), and the term "nano-augmentation" is used in the bioelectric cells description. Itachou [~talk~] 12:16, September 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * There's a difference between pointing out mistakes in a footnote and altering history because you don't approve of it, though. A wiki can say something is incorrect, but it's not the wiki's job to correct every instance of it; that's far more likely to confuse people than doing nothing at all. We have no obligation to imply the in-game universe is more consistant than it actually is. 2.24.36.214 12:21, September 1, 2011 (UTC)

You have wrong and I think you have no idea in science. In a different point, I think you don't know the goal and our policy here so I suggest you to read the policies and guidelines.

We have the obligation to keep a consistence of the Deus Ex universe, everything was done to ensure that the player doesn't lose it while keeping the consistency of the universe. Also, biomods is also used for the Illuminati Elite Trooper that are physiopharmaceutical augmentation. Itachou [~talk~] 12:32, September 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * No, we do not have the obligation to "keep consistence," we have an obligation to report accurately what is in the games. What you're doing is basically nothing more than writing fanfiction of what you think should be in the game, not documenting what actually is in the game. If the game makes a mistake, we can document that it's a mistake, but it's not good form to correct it. The fact that in IW Biomods are called Biomods is canon.


 * I suggest you read the guidelines: "all content needs to be accurate" (lying about what these items are called is not accurate), "All content needs to be objective" (trying to alter canon to fit your views of what is "scientific" is not objective), and "All content needs to relate to the games as delivered by the developers" (the developers called them Biomods, not Augmentations). You are the one violating guidelines by trying to invent a common term where the games do not use one. I suppose we should also call Praxis kits "augmentation canisters" to be "consistent?" 2.24.36.214 12:39, September 1, 2011 (UTC)

Praxis kit is an item, not a gameplay settings linked with other games.

Well, I'm a long time here and I'm an admin, so I know how to run this wiki and it is not you who will tell me how it works here. Keep consistence is the first goal of the Wiki ("All content needs to be objective" - mind-independent, just revisit the definition), if you don't agree, you have nothing to do here. Also, your attitude of "I'm right and you're wrong", generally sticks and will win you no favours. Additionally, you start picking a fight with a valued editor and admin, kinda reminds me of User:Lugiatm on The Vault, something which doesn't bode well for you.

"All content needs to be accurate", "All content needs to relate to the games as delivered by the developers", just a note but a name of a page is not a in-game content since UNATCO is never name in-game "United Nations Anti-Terrorist Coalition" or FEMA is never name in-game "Federal Emergency Mobilisation Administration", for the rest, all was makes by noting the mistake in the page, and naming the page in a standard format to keep consistency with other games and the Deus Ex universe.

In another point, you have no idea in science and I think you're talking about something that you don't know, so believe me, it's better this way for consistency. Also, I'm the one who wrote the policies and guidelines approved by the other admins that I know exactly what it's talking. For the rest, my suggestions are above, nothing more to say, good day. Itachou [~talk~] 13:09, September 1, 2011 (UTC)